“without a willingness to admit new information, and concede that your opponent is making a fair point, and that science and reason matter,”
And what would Obama accept as a ‘common baseline of facts’?
Obama has always been a master with words that paint his viewpoint on the moral high ground. His actions, on the other hand, often betray his words as veneer to placate the unwary.
When AGW alarmists won’t even take the same platform at the same time as people who disagree with them how can we not keep talking past one another? Alarmists don’t want to hear or be questioned by those with a different viewpoint. Why?
Skeptics have to listen to alarmists and then see where agreement on fact is possible.
LIke justice, science requires the presence of all sides in order to arrive at a judgement of truth.
Opposing sides MUST be invited to the table to try and prevent human error while weighing the evidence that addresses an issue. Common ground can be found.
‘The climate is changing’ seems like a safe point of agreement.
Temperatures are warmer now than in 1850 seems like another point of agreement.
CO2 due to the human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels is indisputable.
Sea levels are rising.
Some glaciers are receding.
There is less Arctic sea ice now than in 1979.
The above facts are NOT disputed by skeptics.
The points of disagreement are also fairly clear.
Extreme weather is NOT more frequent or severe than in the past.
Sea level rise is NOT accelerating.
Today’s temperatures are NOT greater than those experienced at various times in the past.
Antarctica is NOT warming
Some glaciers are GROWING.
Arctic sea ice is NOT continuing to disappear.
In order for us to ‘stop talking past each other’ alarmists must admit these simple truths.
All ‘expert’ opinion must be considered by alarmists.
2016 Global Temperatures: Does The Climate Science Gold-Standard Indicate Future Warming or Cooling?
Will they listen or continue to shut out, shut down and block all opinion contrary to their own? Are they interested in scientific truth or only their own agenda?
We hope for a change in hysteria from alarmist blogs but will not be holding our breath. “There are none so blind as those who will not see” ~John Heywood
We WILL keep talking past each other. Alarmists are not yet ready to open their minds to the fact that they may have been wrong. Jobs and purpose of life depend on maintaining continued ignorance. Isn’t that right, Bill?
It is always tough to admit that the cause to which you have devoted so much of your life so earnestly was false pursuit of a phantom of the atmosphere. Trapped heat does NOT exist in the open atmosphere. In fact, it is tough to keep heat trapped within a building. It is why humans invented thermostats.
Dangerous manmade global warming is skewered by the need to keep throwing wood on a fire. Hot things do not stay hot without a continuous supply of energy.
Obama: to deny the evidence on manmade climate change is to betray the spirit of this country. True but Obama fell for the #FakeNews that 97% of climate scientists believe that global warming is man made and yet there has never been a poll of scientists that asked the specific question: Do you believe that global warming of the late 20th century was due to the human emissions of CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels? The ‘evidence’ on which Obama relies is #FakeNews. Does he know it?
Obama went to Alaska and visited the EXIT glacier which has been receding for two centuries. Was he not smart enough to ask what started the recession? Was he being disingenuous when he did not offer balance to the issue by noting that there are GROWING glaciers in Alaska such as the Hubbard, the Taku and the Margerie glaciers. Presenting all the data on Alaskan glaciers leaves us with inconvenient unanswered questions re GLOBAL warming since CO2 is the same in Alaska as everywhere else. Why aren’t they ALL receding? Perhaps because the warming in Alaska is local and not part of a GLOBAL pattern.
We are more likely to understand our world when we have ALL the data available at the same time rather than cherry picking those data that lend support to our theory. Humans can deny reality but reality will not be denied. In Alaska, Obama was either ignorant or he was being evasive neither of which speaks well of his office or his credibility.
Tricks of omission like the Alaskan glaciers is one reason why we keep talking past one another.
REFERENCES:
Advancing Alaskan Glacier - some do; some aren’t - the Margerie Glacier
And then there is the TAKU Glacier in Alaska - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taku_Glacier
Status: advancing
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